The Exceptionis Exception Processing Message c0000013 Perameters 75b6bf7c 4 75b6bf7c 75b6bf7c2 people need an answerI do too

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:7f2cdc6b-ead3-4302-b154-1698cf30d06f... > The Exceptionis Exception Processing Message c0000013 Perameters 75b6bf7c > 4 75b6bf7c 75b6bf7c Check in MSCOPNFIG - see if you can see something in the Startup listing that may be attempting to access the drive -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

I have tried that but there doesn't seem to be anything. I have isolated each one in turn to no avail.

"Gezza14" wrote >I have tried that but there doesn't seem to be anything. I have isolated >each one in turn to no avail. (Sorry for the typo - Should have been MSCONFIG - but you seem to have got the idea anyhow<g>) In that case I might begin to suspect malware, or a faulty driver **Sudden thought - Check in your Recent Documents folders - is there anything there referring to the floppy drive??** When did the problem start? Do you have up-to-date AV and anti-spyware? - Have you run a full system scan with Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, or similar? What were you doing in the couple of days before the problem was first noticed? Did you lend the PC to anyone? -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

I have done a full system scan, no problems. I was removing old data from floppies that were years old and transferring a few photographs from same. I deleted the data from the floppies and did not transfer to the PC but the photo's were transferred.

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:a7e6e137-ade3-410e-b279-4d4fbccc2bc5... >I have done a full system scan, no problems. I was removing old data from >floppies that were years old and transferring a few photographs from same. >I deleted the data from the floppies and did not transfer to the PC but the >photo's were transferred. .....and the floppy shortcuts probably remain in your Recently-used Files lists!!! It's so long since I used a floppy that I'd forgotten about that. Right-click on the Start button, and select Properties - go to the Start Menu page, and click on Customize Start Menu - in the General tab, click on the Clear List button, and OK out - reboot and see if that cures things If not, then we'll probable need to do something a little more drastic. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

hello enter the bios http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htmn change the boot sequence http://en.kioskea.net/faq/648-boot-devices-modifying-boot-sequence Please click the Check Mark As Answered On This Page If this post helps to resolve your issue as it helps others who need quick access to Answers THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK

"coork" wrote in message news:31d8b8f1-91db-4b92-a45d-3888a522637c... > hello > > enter the bios vvvvvvvvvv change the boot sequence That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the OP's problem. - which occurs AFTER windows has loaded (if you bother to read his post properly, this is obvious) -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

hello i have had this problem and changed the boot or to floppy last however having said that the other option is go it to the bios and turn off the floppy http://www.consumingexperience.com/2007/11/windows-no-disk-exception-processing.html http://www.consumingexperience.com/2007/11/windows-no-disk-exception-processing.html as for the comments of mr paton microsoft answers is a social forum if you dont agree with an answer thats ok prove how smart you are by comming up with the correct one not by being abusive Please click the Check Mark As Answered On This Page If this post helps to resolve your issue as it helps others who need quick access to Answers THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK

"coork" wrote in message news:1087eb91-76fa-4f6f-870f-f009e20ababe... > as for the comments of mr paton microsoft answers is a social forum if you > dont agree with an answer thats ok prove how smart you are by comming up > with the correct one not by being abusive > > I already came up with what I'm pretty sure is the correct answer before you came on the scene. You, on the other hand, arrived and gave a totally inappropriate 'answer' and seemingly still persist in such misinformation. Please read the OP's original post two more times, and then tell me where there is any indication that the BIOS setting could possibly be involved. I'll save you the trouble of going to find it.... "I receive an exception warning headed "no disc" on boot up. If I put a blank floppy disk into the floppy drive and click try again it continues to boot up normally. The Exceptionis Exception Processing Message c0000013 Perameters 75b6bf7c 4 75b6bf7c 75b6bf7c" There is not a single significant word in that, that could possibly have been generated by the BIOS. QED -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

"Gezza14" wrote . I've been trawling the internet for a few ideas of what may be the problem (if it isn't the Computer MRU list) - and a few consistent themes have sprung up. In no particular order, I need to ask a few questions:- 1) Do you now or have you ever had Norton/Symantec software on that machine? 2) Have you recently removed, or upgraded and USB card readers (including ones in printers, USB hubs, etc) 3) Are you familiar with regedit, even if not confident with the registry? -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

"coork" wrote in message news:1087eb91-76fa-4f6f-870f-f009e20ababe... > as for the comments of mr paton microsoft answers is a social forum if you > dont agree with an answer thats ok prove how smart you are by comming up > with the correct one not by being abusive > http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28059/I_get_an_error_message_Exception_Processing_Message_c0000013 -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

I tried that and no luck unfortunately.

"Gezza14" wrote >I tried that and no luck unfortunately. (this is one reason I hate forums - there's no real way to tell what this is in response to!) Was this a response to coork, or to me? If to coork, then I am not at all surprised - for the following reasons 1) the BIOS is out of the equation by the time windows is booting- the windows bootstrap mechanism has taken over from the very limited BIOS bootstrap. 2) the error messages are easily identified as being from within the Windows environment 3) If the BIOS had been the problem, inserting an empty floppy would have actually caused an error message, rather than removing it (usually something along the lines of 'No Operating System, Press any key to retry' If to me, then we'll have to look elsewhere un the MRU system, or take a shotgun approach (which is a lot easier<g>) Let's try this (making a System Restore point before this would be a good idea!) Download MRU-Blaster - from http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/mrudownload.html install it, and run it (make sure that you disallow all scheduling, etc operations!). Scan the system, and ask it to show the results. There will be a LONG list of results - you can either search through it for the entry that is causing the problem (and uncheck everything else), or take the shotgun approach and allow the program to delete everything. Click on the Clean Now button, and when it's finished, close it down, and reboot the system - see if that solves the problem. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, it is you I am dealing with. Can you answer a few questions for me please? What is MRU and did you mean to desable my scheduled tasks in the Norton 360 or in the program that is downloaded?

"Gezza14" wrote > Hi Noel, it is you I am dealing with. Can you answer a few questions for > me please? > > What is MRU and did you mean to desable my scheduled tasks in the Norton > 360 or in the program that is downloaded? > OK, fine :) I meant to disable the scheduling in the MRU_Blaster download - you could always enable it later if you decide to keep the program. For a one-off use like this it's unnecessary at best, and possibly harmful at worst, as it may do something that you don't want while your back is turned. MRU is Most Recently Used Most modern program keep a list of the latest few files they've accessed - you may have enabled the 'Recent Files' list on the Start Menu (I always do - it saves hunting for commonly-used files and locations). This is an MRU list. Most MRU Lists are buried in the registry - and editing out a single entry can be a bit of a minefield, as there's often actually two thing to edit for each item. The item itself, and the order of precedence (which could mean adjusting a lot of other entries). HTH? -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

You suggest making a restore point before doing the download, I find the restore points pretty useless. What do you anticipate that the download might do and should I do a backup first?

Consider running Sysinternals Process Monitor - start capturing data, reproduce the behavior (get the message to appear), note the time, stop capturing data in Procmon, and save the log file as a .PML. ZIP it, upload the ZIP file to your SkyDrive, and provide a link. Maybe the log file will hold some clue about what you are experiencing. Consider using a new/different user account - does the behavior exist there?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:bc356b74-bb3f-4fa9-a47f-5a0011add158... > You suggest making a restore point before doing the download, I find the > restore points pretty useless. What do you anticipate that the download > might do and should I do a backup first? Restore points are very good at backing up the registry - and since we're doing things in there, it's the easiest way to make sure that we have a backup. If you want to make a separate backup, then fine - but make sure that it includes the registry. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Ok Noel, I will have a go at downloading the MRU blaster and doing what you suggested and let you know how I get on, fingers crossed!

"Gezza14" wrote > Ok Noel, I will have a go at downloading the MRU blaster and doing what > you suggested and let you know how I get on, fingers crossed! Bon Chance! (sounds so much better than 'Good Luck' <g>) -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, I am afraid that the problem is still there. Thanks for trying. Do I remove the MRU blaster from my system now?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:0e74ca8b-d7e5-48d2-a8fd-f9de1e5f3566... > Hi Noel, > > I am afraid that the problem is still there. Thanks for > trying. Do I remove the MRU blaster from my system now? > Oh, B&&&&&r!, You can do - unless you think you may want to use it later. It's freeware. I ASSume you got rid of the lot? OK let's go at this again from the start.... 1) Start with the machine off - press the On button, you get the POST routine, and then Windows begins to load, 2) you get the XP flag, and the blue chain across the bottom. 3) Screen goes black (installing the video drivers) 4) then you get the Welcome screen 5) If you have two or more accounts, the, you get to pick the account, 6) otherwise it goes straight to the desktop. 7) Startup menu items load Questions:- At which point do you get the error message? I've assumed so far that it's during step 6-7. What happens if you boot to Safe Mode? - do you still get the error? What happens if you boot to another account? (if the error still happens your account in Safe Mode, and you don't have another account, you could use the Admin account in Safe Mode to test, otherwise you may need to create another User for the test) Are there any entries in Event Viewer for the problem? -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, I have removed MRU but it says there are still some components which can be removed manually, how does one do that or is it not important? Yes, the problem occurs at stage 7. I'm afraid the rest of what you said means nothing to me, how does one boot up in safe mode, whatever that is? The only other account I have is the Guest account. Where is the "Event viewer"?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:a939cd12-12bd-407a-a261-0f7f455c024c... I have removed MRU but it says there are still some components which can be removed manually, how does one do that or is it not important? Almost certainly they can be ignored (probably just a folder with the log file in it) > > Yes, the problem occurs at stage 7. Good - so I wasn't too far out :) > > I'm afraid the rest of what you said means nothing to me, how does one > boot up in safe mode, whatever that is? Safe Mode is where the machine boots to Windows with the absolute minimum of drivers and things - so that interferences can be isolated. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/315222?p=1 To get into Safe Mode:- Restart the Machine Just before the end of teh POST routine, begin tapping the F8 key (about 2/sec usually works - no need to go haywire on it). You should get the Boot Options menu up One of those options is Safe Mode - use the cursor keys to highlight it, and the enter key to start it > > The only other account I have is the Guest account. > I *hope* that's disabled? OK - we can work with this You haven't mentioned the Version of XP you're running - is it Home or Professional? ( go to System Properties and check, if you're not sure) > > > Where is the "Event viewer"? > If you click on the Start button, go to Run... Type EVENTVWR and click OK you'll get the Event Viewer management application - what we'd be interested in is any application errors, the ID numbers, and Sources. (you can see details of any entry in the log by double-clicking on it, and copy the details to clipboard for pasting into Notepad or whatever by using the button top right of the properties window). There will be many non-relevant entries - but you can filter the results (use F1 for the Help - it's reasonably good) to show only errors and warnings, and then look for the times when the computer is booting to see what's there. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, Have looked in the event viewer, the only error (1) was on 29.4.2010 Application error event 1000. There are several warnings which come in pairs which seem to coincide with the boot ups. Each pair is the same and they are Microsoft Fax (which I never use) Initialisation the first of the pair is 32068 and the second 32026 if that is any help to you. I couldn't find an ID The guest account is not live. I did get rid of the lot in MRU buster. I will try booting in safe mode to see if that makes any difference and let you know.

Hi Noel, The safe mode booted up normally without a problem. When I booted up after in normal mode I noticed that the warnig appeared just before the scanner was initialised. The xp vesion is Home Edition. I believe that the scanner can sometimes be confused by windows as a fax? Is this at the root of the problem?

Hi Noel, Tried booting up with scanner power unplugged, didn't make any difference.

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:7dafc88b-d9f2-4412-b83c-7c03ce3fb32a... > Hi Noel, > > Have looked in the event viewer, the only error (1) was on > 29.4.2010 Application error event 1000. > > There are several warnings which come in pairs which seem to coincide with > the boot ups. Each pair is the same and they are Microsoft Fax (which I > never use) Initialisation the first of the pair is 32068 and the second > 32026 if that is any help to you. I couldn't find an ID Strange that it's even installed! Since you say that you never use it, shall we get rid of it? (if you suddenly want to use it later, you can always reinstall it), especially as you've noticed concerns about that and the scanner? Start>Control Panel>Add & Remove Programs> Add& Remove Windows Components Uncheck Fax Services Click Next, and then Finish - the system may ask for a reboot Back to your problem: Since you say that the error comes up after the desktop has loaded, it's almost certainly in your user profile. If you can do the Safe Mode boot, we should then know whether it's purely software or driver-related, or whether there's a hardware element. Click on the Start button All Programs>Start - what's listed there?? if it says anything other than '(Empty)' we need to check, so right-click on the Startup entry (not the file shortcut) and select 'Open All Users' once the explorer window has opened, go to Tools> Folder Options select the View tab. to make sure that we can see all files, we need to make some changes in the listing there go down until you see 'Hidden files and folders' select the radio button to 'show hidden files and folders' UNcheck 'Hide extensions for known file types' UNcheck 'Hide protected operating system files' - You'll be asked to confirm this setting, so click on 'Yes' Then click on OK out of the Options window You should now see at least one file there that you couldn't see before - desktop.ini. If there's anything else in the list, make a note of it - and whether it's greyed out like the desktop.ini file (i.e. a hidden file) or 'normal-looking' Then close that window - go to Start>All Programs, and right-click on the Startup entry, this time selecting 'Open' this time you should immediately see the desktop.ini file - and whatever else is in the folder. make a list of the entries post back with the results. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, I went through your instructions and in the final window there is only the desktop ini file and the only other thing is the Wkcalrem which is my microsoft works calendar appointments which I can't do without! Do I go through and check the boxes and buttons that you asled me to uncheck?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:ce3faa85-96e4-4191-904d-eeaa854c1eef... > Do I go through and check the boxes and buttons that you asled me to > uncheck? Yep! What's your Anti-virus? It may complain at the program I want to use next - which is perfectly safe, just of a type which is commonly used for nasties. Go to www.silentrunners.org, and download SilentRunners.vbs (put it on your desktop, it's easiest!) read the FAQ while you're there, if you feel like it. The output (which you'll find in the same folder you ran the file from) is probably going to be too large to post here - email it to me at ngs AT crashfixpc DOT co DOT uk (make suitable substitutions for the letters in caps) which is an account I use solely for these forums. I you want, you can go through the output yourself - first thing to look for is <<!>>: Suspicious data at a malware launch point and after that, then we start looking for links to the A/B:drive, or files/programs which may have been looking there. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

You could also use Sysinternals' Autoruns to generate a list of the system's autostarts - download, extract, and launch Autoruns, let it finish, and then save the results. ZIP the saved results, upload the ZIP file to SkyDrive, and provide a link.

"No.Compromise" wrote in message news:e72f9a09-e07a-4708-9f38-6c654eb5bfff... > You could also use Sysinternals' Autoruns to generate a list of the > system's autostarts - download, extract, and launch Autoruns, let it > finish, and then save the results. ZIP the saved results, upload the ZIP > file to SkyDrive, and provide a link. Yeah - It's been a while since I used autoruns, and even the it wasn't often.... I've suggested SilentRunners, which I've always reckoned found most things. Must have a play with Autoruns this w/e! -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Certainly will be some overlap, and each will probably have some things the other doesn't.

Ny security is Norton 360, what do you mean by complain?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:0c60fb97-474a-457f-9fbe-fc8478e0a80f... > Ny security is Norton 360, what do you mean by complain? Ah - I just checked, and Norton have finally realised that their Script-blocker was causing more problems than it solved! Should be no problem then - go ahead and download and run the script -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, I have just emailed you what I assume is the script.

"Gezza14" wrote > Hi Noel, > > I have just emailed you what I assume is the script. > OK, thanks. - I've put it up at http://crashfixpc.co.uk/utilities/ASH.txt Unfortunately, I can't see anything in there that's likely to have caused your problem (except Norton - but that's mostly personal bias <g>) I see that the Fax still appears to be installed - at least as a printer? "Microsoft Shared Fax Monitor\Driver = "FXSMON.DLL" [MS]" You should be able to remove that by going to Printers, and deleting it as a printer. The only other thing I can think of is that it's related to a thumb-drive (USB memory stick), and that somehow Windows is 'satisfied' when you put a floppy in. Do you have (or have you ever had) a memory stick plugged in? It's probably my bias - but I can't help wondering if Norton is involved here. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hello Noel, I have deleted the fax. I do have a memory stick which I have used in the past, what do you suggest I do with it. I could ask Norton to take Nortn off and put it on again if that would help but I do think this is not going to help as if I switch Norton off, disable it, it still gets the problem when I boot up. If there is nothing else I am happy just to keep putting the floppy in, it's no great hassle.

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:e4aab0dd-e5a4-40e7-bd94-cb72605e2085... > If there is nothing else I am happy just to keep putting the floppy in, > it's no great hassle. > You might be happy - but it bugs the heck out of me :) Try this:- Shut down the PC Plug your memory stick in Now reboot Do you still get the message? If not, then use the 'remove hardware' USB icon in the taskbar (if present - otherwise open Explorer, and 'eject' the drive) to remove it before physically unplugging it - then reboot and se if our luck holds :) -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, Yep, still get the message! No luck.

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:7feae6d8-137e-4f9d-b1e5-bfc2a0a3f196... > Hi Noel, > > Yep, still get the message! No luck. > Ok - I'll keep thinking, and drop in to update every so often - keep checking, huh? Only thing I can think of is an Autoruns for No.Compromise - if you're unsure about the Skydrive, just email it to me and I'll put it up on my site. Anyone else care to comment?? -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

OK Noel, I will look from time to timebut don't get hung up over it. What is a Skydrive?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:5457ba60-76fa-45ce-9633-b0164f620862... > OK Noel, > > I will look from time to timebut don't get hung up over it. What > is a Skydrive? > Free 'cloud-space' storage that MS 'provides' for everyone with a Passport/Live account http://skydrive.live.com/ 25GB of storage that you can use for whatever you like, and is accessible wherever you can login.... Nice idea, if you trust MS to hold your data. I tend to take the view that my data is mine - and I don't want anyone else holding it (and it's yet another login/password combination I have to manage!). Google offers much the same thing (I trust them even less!), I think Yahoo does too (won't go there). -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Hi Noel, I don't trust ANYBODY with my data so I am not interested in Skydrive thank you. I have an external hard drive but I don't think the problem warrants all that bother. Cheers, Gezza

I can appreciate your apprehension with respect to the data hosting. What you could consider is creating password-protected ZIP files of the items of interest and uploading those to your SkyDrive (instructions here). Then you could publicly (or privately, via email) share the links to those items, and privately share the passwords. Use as strong of a password as you like. You have Noel's email address it seems, and you can find mine in my profile. Alternatively, the .arn file created by Autoruns, when ZIPped, will likely be small enough to email all by itself, so that would seem to be another option. The process monitor .pml file may be too large to email around when ZIPped; in that case, the SkyDrive could be used, as outlined above.

Hi Noel, My daughters machine has died and I have put her hard drive into my machine and extracted most files but one is denying access. Both machines are XP and both are password protected. Is there any way of getting access to the one file that isn't letting me in?Gezza

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:6b0720ed-3c4a-415a-851a-ffbe18b27c4c...> Hi Noel,>> My daughters machine has died and I have put her hard drive > into my machine and extracted most files but one is denying access. Both > machines are XP and both are password protected. Is there any way of > getting access to the one file that isn't letting me in?>> Gezza> presumably you're using an Admin account?try taking ownership of the file, and then giving yourself permissions (I can't remember if you have Home or Pro??)It may be that the file is corrupt in some way - not easy to tell, unfortunately.Have you tried a CHKDSK /F ?? -- Noel Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC

Hi Noel, I have XP home as does my daughter. What is CHKDSK/F ? Sounds like a disk check or something. How do I do that?Incidentally I tried to reclaim the file from information on the microsoft website, but there was no security tab when I went to properties.

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:d0e417bf-8676-4aab-b473-d3b900b20ccf...> Hi Noel,>> I have XP home as does my daughter. What is CHKDSK/F ? Sounds > like a disk check or something. How do I do that?>> Incidentally I tried to reclaim the file from information on the microsoft> website, but there was no security tab when I went to properties.> Nah - you have to be in Safe Mode, logged in as Administrator, for that, if you're using XP Home (which you probably are). Try it and see. (note - not 'An Administrator', 'THE Administrator' - the special mostly-invisible adminaccount). CHKDSK /Fis the Check Disk command - with the /F meaning 'fix errors found', otherwise, it just reports the errors without fixing them. -- Noel Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC

Tried CHKDSK/F but windows says it can't find it!

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:f8863414-4c0a-4e72-b485-139ec631a850...> Tried CHKDSK/F but windows says it can't find it!> did you put the <space> between the K and the F??it helps :) -- Noel Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC

Hi Noel,The space worked (clever clogs) but it only checked my c: drive, how do I get it to check the drive in E: ?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:5358f1e0-51e0-418d-8027-e70a7b01b991...> Hi Noel,>> The space worked (clever clogs) but it only checked my c: drive, how do I > get it to check the drive in E: ?>>> CHKDSK E: /F(note the spaces K>E :>/ )!!:) -- Noel Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC

Hi Noel, The E: drive checked out ok.If I follow the wikiHow steps, step 4 says change the permissions as in Window 2000. What does that mean as I have no experience of that?

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:2f1b330b-f1ff-45f8-8758-cd80d1acf56f...> Hi Noel,>> The E: drive checked out ok.>> If I follow the wikiHow steps, step 4 says change the permissions as in > Window 2000. What does that mean as I have no experience of that?> Once in Safe Mode - Administrator account! In your case, since you are just hoiking the data off, you want to give Everyone permissions to do Everything to Everything :)So:-in the target folder, r-click on the folder icon, and select PropertiesSelect SecurityIn the top box, you'll probably see at least three entries (Mostly a string of numbers)\Click on AdvancedClick on the Owner tabHighlight the Administrators group in the list, and click in the 'Replace owner...' box to accept the option. then click OKYou should now see that Administrators has been added to the list of possibilities in the top boxIf so, Go to ******** belowIf not....Click on Add..Advanced..Find NowHighlight 'Administrators' in your PCname (XP for various reasons calls it afolder)Click OKThe entry should now have been copied to the 'Enter the.....' box as PCName\AdministratorsClick OK, and it should appear back in the top box in Security. ********Now highlight you local Administrators in the top box, and click in the FullControl box below - click OK, and you should be up and running. HTH -- Noel Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC

Hi Noel, Thanks for your help. I have managed to get into the folder and transfer it.Thanks Again,Gezza

"Gezza14" wrote in message news:df964a8a-d708-42ca-88b6-9af4ea4e4b78...> Hi Noel,>> Thanks for your help. I have managed to get into the > folder and transfer it.>> Thanks Again,>> Gezza> You're welcome - please create a new thread if you have any more problems (this one is now longer than a country mile!)<g>Good Luck! -- Noel Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC